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Hip-Hop, Imus, Race, Gender, Misogyny

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At the end of tonight's meeting we talked a little about the Imus incident and about the response that scapegoated hip-hop as the cause of sexism, racism and misogyny but also opened up a forum for a lot of important dialogue on these intersecting issues.

Here's a few news stories you might find of interest:

Don Imus, White Denial and Racism in America - Tim Wise
http://www.lipmagazine.org/~timwise/Imus.html

Oprah's "Town Hall Meeting" videos
http://nahright.com/news/2007/04/18/video-russell-company-on-oprah/#more-1564

An Open Letter to Oprah Winfrey - Saul Williams
http://www.counterpunch.org/williams04192007.html

Recommendation to the Recording and Broadcasting  Industries: A Statement by Russell Simmons and Dr. Bejamin Chavis on behalf of hte Hip-Hop Summit Action Network
http://www.hispanicprwire.com/news.php?l=in&id=8508&cha=7

New York City’s Power 105.1 Stops Playing Degrading Songs
http://www.xxlmag.com/online/?p=9349

Is Hip Hop Really the Blame for this Don Imus Thing? - Davey D
http://www.thuglifearmy.com/news/?id=3563

The art of diversion - Tara Henely
http://www.xxlmag.com/online/?p=9172

Why Do Hip-Hop Bloggers Hate Women? - Billy Sunday
http://www.xxlmag.com/online/?p=9484

Hear me out: Hip-Hop and Gender Criticism - dnA

http://www.racialicious.com/2007/05/01/hear-me-out-hip-hop-and-gender-criticism/#more-626

Hip-Hop's socially conscious side - Jeff Chang and Dave Zirin
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-zirin23apr23,0,3088270.story?coll=la-opinion-rightrail

Here's what Bassey wrote a few weeks ago, and then a few of my thoughts.  I'll also post this email on livejournal (ccfemmaj.livejournal.com) so please go there to engage in dialogue via the comments section.

from bassey:
I think what it boils down to is less, "If you can, why can't I?" and more, "Why do you want to?" If it's okay for me to make certain statements about my sister or mother or brother, what is it about that is so pressing that members outside of my family feel it necessary to 'chime in'.
I have a huge problem with how the rap world depicts black women and how demeaning that is for black people and women but that does not now nor does that ever "excuse" people like Imus or Michael Richards or Mel Gibson. My issues with Ludacriss and R Kelly and the Ying Yan twins and all teh execs over at BET are seperate and should be dealt with on a larger level.

That being said, I do think that black people in general need to take collective responsibility for how young black girls are being viewed in this society. To the extent where an "Imus" can make that statement and not feel a thing about it until called out.
The outrage should be great because we disallow this from anybody not that we disallow it from certain groups.
But righ tnow, the issue is Imus, the rest will and should be dealt with in the appropriate historical context
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I think she hits on what I've been feeling but did not know how to articulate.  It is one thing to say 'the rappers are wrong', but it's another, totally illogical immature thing to argue, "Well they did it first..."  seriously immature, don't you think?  This conversation about hip-hop and misogyny is important to have but should not be entertained soley as a scapegoat for the Imus issue.  It is disturbing to realize that the underlying arguement seems to be "Well they are doing it so why can't I?"  like Bassey says, why do you want to?
 


 

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